Two Women who are the definition of "Ride or Die" with Rev. Joya Sosnowski

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welcome to Time with the Divine.

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My name is Ashley, I'm your host, and today we'll be exploring the magical,

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the mystical, historical, our ancestors, everything and everything in between.

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So on today's episode, we're gonna be traveling all the way to the Middle

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East and we're gonna get to talk about two really cool ride or die ladies.

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Hi everybody.

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Thank you so much for coming.

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Thank you for listening.

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, thank you for coming back.

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Um, so on TV show, I'm very excited.

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We're gonna welcome in.

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Reverend Joya Sosnowski.

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Reverend Joya is a channel for a powerful channel for the power of

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sound, vibrations, and sacred oils to help people live their best.

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Live.

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She is committed to bridging spirituality, science, and psychology

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through her studies of quantum and neuroscience, and through her studies

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of the army teachings of Yeshua.

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In addition to her certifications and continual studies in the realm of sound

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healing, she is a divine sciences.

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New thought, Reverend A U S M, spiritual psychology coach, and

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a certified mindfulness trainer.

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Her mission in life is the liberation of suffering and to see the Nasha,

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Nasha, or soul self awaken and express in every human being, I love that.

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She's the author of Practical Spirituality, 15 Practices

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for Bringing Heaven to Earth.

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Also love that she leads sacred retreat for women to sing drum

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and embody their divine self at sacred sites around the world.

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Okay, so I saw you on Instagram and I just love, like your whole vibe

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is so beautiful and I was like, I just have to talk to this person.

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Oh, you're so sweet.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, you just have like a great every, I don't know.

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It's so funny cuz like Instagram and social media, it's like

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it really means nothing.

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But there are some people who you see and you're just like, wow.

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They really truly express who they are through these like online.

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Medium, which is nice.

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Instead of just seeing things that like, make you sad or whatever, you

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express it in a really nice way.

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And I really just enjoyed looking at your page.

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That's why I was like, oh, let me see if I can reach out to this person.

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She seems really, really nice.

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So, couple questions for you because, your biography, like,

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there's so many interesting things in it and I'm like, oh my gosh.

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Okay.

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I have to ask you about everything.

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So, so, um, so first and foremost, what put you on a path to this like

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kind of spiritual life and this kind of awakening that you seem to have

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had and it's just really beautiful.

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So what kind of put you on the path to doing that?

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Hmm.

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Oh boy.

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Well, uh, honestly, I, I know that I've always been spiritual,

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but it just went dormant mm-hmm.

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When I was a kid and probably when I, you know, I remember being really young

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and being very spiritual, very connected.

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To guides and angels, and especially Mary Magdalene, like I used to play

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with her in the woods and I wanted to be a priest when I grew up.

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I used to line up my stuffed animals and play church with them.

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And um, you know, and, but then due to a traumatic childhood in my teenage years,

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all of that just went out the window.

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Hmm.

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And I was in survival mode.

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Right.

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So, yeah.

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You know, after I had, I had a near-death experience when I

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was 21 from a suicide attempt.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I heard the most beautiful music of heaven that I've

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ever heard in my entire life.

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And I would like to say the next day I picked up my sound

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bowls and became a sound killer.

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But that's not what happened.

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My stubborn self went on a mission of healing, but I was trying

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to heal rationally, logically.

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I was trying to heal with my mind, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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I was trying to heal from the point of the ego and trying to solve the

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problems of my spirit, the problems of my soul, utilizing my mind, and so

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fast forward to having babies, getting married, career burnout, all of that

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pretending to be perfect, like that whole fake facade that people do that I did.

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Um, I had a stress-induced nervous breakdown about 12 years ago, and wow.

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I found myself again feeling suicidal again on the verge

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of, um, just total emptiness.

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I was drinking a lot.

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Mm-hmm.

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I was keeping myself super busy.

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I was eating a lot, like anything to numb and checkout, and I had two small kids.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that was just not exactly the best modeling.

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Right.

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So then of course, the voice in my head, because of the things I

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was doing, the voice in my head, that was always my worst enemy, was

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saying, you're a terrible mother.

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This is, you're just like your mom.

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Your children don't you deserve, they don't even need you.

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They deserve a better mother.

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So I was like going off the deep end.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, thankfully I discovered mindfulness-based stress reduction

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and so I took an M B S R.

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Of course.

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And in that eight weeks, I noticed such a profound change in my noticing

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of my thought processes that I just threw myself into mindfulness.

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So I'm getting around to answering the question because it's That's okay.

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I

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have now like 17 other questions to ask you.

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This is important because it's like it this.

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Hi.

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This became like the whole focus of my work, because then what happened

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was after practicing mindfulness and meditation, I accidentally woke up

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Mm, I accidentally became spiritual.

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So it was very, very, very unexpected for me to arrive at the place.

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And I literally, literally remember the first day I was gonna make a

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spiritual post on my Facebook page.

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Where up to that point I had been like, neuroscience

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and mindfulness, and this is facts and data

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and you know, the whole brain thing.

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And I was like, God.

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And, uh, it was a totally terrifying leap for me to take, which is so funny because

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now if you see my Instagram, you can't even imagine that I would've ever, like,

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I don't wanna talk about God.

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But, but it just

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became like, you know, I really came to feel like the,

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the mind can only take us so far.

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And then we come to this threshold point where, We have to take that leap where

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Spirit takes us the rest of the way.

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It's like you've gone as far as you can go with the thinking mind, with the ego,

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with the noticing, with the awareness.

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And now are you gonna surrender to something else that you

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don't, you can't explain.

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And I said, yes, I'm gonna, I will do that.

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And it's, and that was in, uh, September of

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2018.

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And then by September of 2019, I had already changed so much.

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That was when I decided to stop dye my hair.

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So in that year I changed a lot.

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Um, but then from 2019 to now, I'm like literally a different reason.

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Oh my God.

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I, I just, everything you said is like, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Okay.

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So, oh my God.

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So many things.

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So first of all, I love, like, I feel like so many, okay, first of all, I.

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Like society, like kinda like you said, you're like, you, you know,

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you did everything that you were like supposed to do and society tells us

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that and people get, so I, me too.

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I've gotten so stuck in that sometimes.

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So then when I'm not, where I'm supposed to be like, oh, I didn't have kids yet,

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I didn't get married or whatever, you start to really feel like you're failing

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and like so many people end up staying in that place, you know what I mean?

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And end up with like so many more problems cuz they thought that they

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were supposed to be this person when like, you are supposed to be

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whoever you were supposed to be.

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N you don't have to do everything the way everybody else told you.

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And also, kind of like what you were saying, I've been at that place

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too, where it's like, I literally have been trying to figure this

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out and I cannot figure out what to do, so I'm just gonna like, let go.

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I always say let go and let God, cuz like I have, I don't know, like,

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like this is beyond me at this point.

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Like, I can't, earthly me can't fix this.

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So like I need.

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I need supernatural intervention.

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Like, you know what I mean?

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Like the

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only

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thing that will, that will help it.

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Really?

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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It's insane.

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Yeah.

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So like I, oh my God, your story is just really interesting and I feel like.

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That resonates with a lot of people, and a lot of people, unfortunately,

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sometimes don't get to the point where they can admit to themselves

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that they can't handle it.

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You know?

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And then they always think it's like them.

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They're like, oh, it's like kind of like you were saying.

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You're like, oh, you got to a point where you're thinking like, oh, I'm a

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bad mom and thinking all these things.

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It's like, no, it's just like you have a lot, there's just a lot going on.

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And sometimes you just need something, some pe and I think it's different

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for everybody, but you were lucky and blessed to find what you needed and

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to then have it evolve to even make a better, you like to make a even more

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healthy, beautiful, even greater version on you and I that is so honorable.

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Like I love, I love that about you.

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Like that's fantastic.

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I'm so glad that I've gotten to know you already.

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Like I feel like, I feel like this is great.

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Like that.

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That is a beautiful, beautiful thing.

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So yeah, thanks for sharing that.

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And um, you know, the interesting thing

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I just wanna say is absolutely I don't, I don't feel like I've

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become a better me or a different me.

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I feel like I've returned to who I already always was and I just stopped being a.

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All of the things of my ego.

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I stopped being my wounding, my wounded past.

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I stopped being a story of my trauma.

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I stopped being a story of my epigenetics that were passed down from my mom, from

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her mom, from her mom, from her mom.

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I stopped.

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I stopped being, all of those stories, all of those things, all of those

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false beliefs, everything put on.

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And it really honestly feels like to me, and maybe it does to you being

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a spiritual woman too, that that I feel like I've actually woken up.

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Like when they say awakening, I'm like, it feels like I awakened to this true

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self that's always been there all along.

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Like there's a sense of familiarity about it.

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Yeah, I, you know what?

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That is so, so true.

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And like when you're saying that, I'm like, yes, that really does resonate

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with me too, because I felt like.

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I definitely, I was actually having this conversation another day.

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I feel that a lot of people carry, they label themselves kinda

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like you were saying just now.

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They label themselves by their traumas, by, you know, their ancestral traumas.

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And it's like you kind of, and I've done this, I ended up kind of living

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that and like anything, anytime something bad happened or like it

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didn't work out, I was like, well that's just cuz nothing works out for me.

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And like, this is just how it is.

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And like, I really was like living my trauma and just being

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like, well this is how it is.

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And like, not realizing that, number one, I was just being a victim all the time.

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Like, and I continuously victimize myself.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And then also I always had to be this like martyr.

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Like for me it was like I would do all these things and then be

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like, oh, nobody cares about me.

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Nobody wanted to help me.

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But it's like I also just didn't have to do it.

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But I was continuous continuing like my own trauma because I like

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didn't know how else to deal with it.

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And not being in this place of like anger that I was in, I

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didn't know how to not be that.

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And I didn't know what I would've been.

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I was like, I'm afraid.

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And I realized that when I started to kinda become more spiritual and learn more

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about myself and my ego, I realized how fearful I was of not being angry because

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I was like, if I'm not angry, who am I?

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I've been angry for so long.

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And like that was, so, I had kind of, I had almost like a

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spiritual nervous breakdown.

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Like I was working with a mentor and I got to this place where

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I had to like kind of confront.

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Some childhood stuff and realized that like I wasn't

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the person who I thought I was.

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I was like, oh no, I'm keeping it together.

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Like I was not keeping it together at all.

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Like I was doing a terrible job.

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Everyone saw I was doing a terrible job except me.

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I was like, no, everything's fine.

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Everyone's like, okay girl.

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It's like

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blind tour stuff.

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It's so funny.

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I'm like, nobody knows that I'm drinking wine at three o'clock every day.

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Nobody knows that.

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I know.

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Even when it same, like when I was at way at college for a while, I was like, oh,

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I'm fine drinking, drinking, drinking.

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Which I wasn't somebody who drank that much, but like, I couldn't stop.

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I was drinking and I was like, no, I'm fine.

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I would go home like every weekend cuz I was miserable.

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But, um, my mom was like, yeah, I thought something was wrong with you.

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I was like, really?

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She's like, yes, you were miserable.

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Like you were so unhappy.

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You were arguing with everybody all the time.

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So it's like, yeah, we're all so, we're so blind and when we're trying to

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cover it up, We think, we always think we're doing a great job, but everyone

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around us is like, oh my, is she okay?

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Like, what's going on over there?

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And that's like, those are the,

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that's the amazing way that the ego tricks your own self, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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It tricks you And then it's got all these different masks that we hide behind.

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And it can be like, mine was, I'm gonna be coldhearted and intellectually

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inte, intellectual and I will just out rationalize you in any argument.

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Yes.

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Versus, versus angry.

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I met people who are angry or the overemotional victim, you can't

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say anything to them cuz they're just gonna start crying and

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afraid to say anything to them.

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Yes.

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So there's like all these different ways and I just really

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wanna admi like commend you.

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For taking personal responsibility and seeing, you're like,

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oh, I mean you're so young.

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And for you to already pick it up and be like, oh, maybe it's me.

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Like that is so awesome.

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Thank you.

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It trust me.

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It took a while and it took a lot of crying for me to be like, huh,

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maybe I'm actually doing some of the, some of this to myself.

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And I think that I learned so many lessons about like meeting people

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where they're at, sometimes realizing that some people are just the way they

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are and sometimes you either have to just be like, I'm cutting this person

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off and I'm not gonna deal with it.

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Or you have to kind of accept it.

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You can pick one, either one is fine, whatever the person's situation is.

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But like you gotta kind of work through things and not cause the

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more you ignore certain things.

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The worst it gets.

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Like, so I used to be a very, like, I'll just put this on the

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back burner and then one day everything just like woo boiled over.

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But um,

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those tolerations right?

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It's like that what, what we tolerate is what rules aren't life.

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Ooh.

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So it's about not tolerating, like taking those tolerations off that

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we don't, first and foremost, we don't tolerate it from ourself.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like we don't sacrifice our wellbeing for somebody else's wellbeing.

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That

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just doesn't make any sense.

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I know.

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And for so long I thought that sacrificing myself was like love for other people.

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I was like, no, this is how I show I love people.

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It's just like, I do all this stuff, I burn myself out.

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I cry all day because I had to do all this stuff.

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But it's just cuz I love them.

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But like, that's not love.

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And at the end of the day, I feel terrible.

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And if people, the people who do really love me, don't want me to do that.

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Like, exactly.

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When did you find, when you were in that energy that

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you attract energy vampires?

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Oh,

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oh.

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So I used to, and my mom will like say to this day, I used to say

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to my mom, like, but like, I feel like all I do is give to people and

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they don't give me anything back.

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And my mom's like, well you don't have to do that.

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And I'd be like, no, but I have to cuz I wanna be nice.

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And like, you know, it just, but it took me so long to realize it.

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And then that I did have so many people in my life who I ended up cutting out

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because I realized like, wow, these people actually make me feel bad.

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Like, they're not making me feel good and I'm, I'm pouring out for them.

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For no reason.

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And you know, there's people, of course I pour out for people I love, but

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eventually you're just like, oh, these people, they don't love me back and

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all they wanna do is take, take, take.

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So I'm like, I have to let that go.

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Like it was too much.

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Yeah.

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And you know the ones you have to let go when you start setting

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boundaries and they don't like it.

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Oh, right.

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That is the truth.

Ashley: 00:16:17

When you start, I realize so many people, the people who I

Ashley: 00:16:21

like, especially friends, like people I'm friends with, when I started

Ashley: 00:16:25

setting boundaries, I had so many people fall off and it was beautiful.

Ashley: 00:16:28

I didn't realize it.

Ashley: 00:16:30

Because I'd be like, oh, you know, I don't talk to so-and-so anymore.

Ashley: 00:16:32

But I realize, wow.

Ashley: 00:16:33

And then the people who I do set boundaries with, and they're like,

Ashley: 00:16:36

yeah, girl, whatever you need.

Ashley: 00:16:37

Like, that's fine.

Ashley: 00:16:37

Okay, cool.

Ashley: 00:16:38

It was like, wow, like you care about me and I care about you.

Ashley: 00:16:42

This is how real relationships are So amazing.

Ashley: 00:16:49

Love that.

Ashley: 00:16:49

I know.

Ashley: 00:16:50

Um, oh, so I also wanted to ask you what, okay, so you, um, are new thought.

Ashley: 00:16:57

New thought, Reverend.

Ashley: 00:16:58

Am I saying that right?

Ashley: 00:16:59

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:17:00

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:17:00

What is, what is new thought?

Ashley: 00:17:02

I'm just so interested.

Ashley: 00:17:03

I didn't know.

Ashley: 00:17:03

I don't know anything about that.

Joya: 00:17:05

Oh my gosh.

Joya: 00:17:05

Yeah.

Joya: 00:17:06

New thought came around in the late 18 hundreds and it's pretty

Joya: 00:17:09

much the teachings that everybody's espousing now, the Law of Attraction.

Joya: 00:17:13

Hmm.

Joya: 00:17:14

Like all of that stuff came about in the 18 hundreds.

Joya: 00:17:16

The, the, um, the new, the new Thought Divine Sciences, which I love so much.

Joya: 00:17:22

These sisters started this in Denver in the 18 hundreds, and they were

Joya: 00:17:26

very much about, The omnipresence of God is everywhere and in everyone,

Joya: 00:17:31

and in everything, and it's us.

Joya: 00:17:33

And that we are living expressions of the One Source creator.

Joya: 00:17:38

And when I, I remember when the first time I read that, I was like, this

Joya: 00:17:41

feels like it makes so much sense to me.

Joya: 00:17:44

This feels like it was what Jesus was trying to teach us when

Joya: 00:17:47

he was like, you guys are it.

Joya: 00:17:50

You have it in you.

Joya: 00:17:52

I said, you can do all these things and greater things than I can do.

Joya: 00:17:55

So the new thought teachers are like, um, all of those old timey teachers

Joya: 00:18:02

from the early 19 hundreds, late 18 hundreds, like, uh, Crower, the guy

Joya: 00:18:06

who wrote, um, uh, thinking Grow Rich, like during that whole time, right?

Joya: 00:18:11

So these are all of these teachers, these new thought teachers that

Joya: 00:18:14

came about, but now a hundred years later, It's now picking up, uh, steam

Joya: 00:18:20

and energy that it's like in the common language now for everybody.

Joya: 00:18:22

And I'm like, oh, this is so great.

Ashley: 00:18:25

So yeah, that's who they are.

Ashley: 00:18:26

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:18:26

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:18:27

So, and that's like a lot of the thought that like, uh, get me,

Ashley: 00:18:31

tell me if I'm wrong, but like, the divine lives within us and like, you

Ashley: 00:18:35

know, I feel like especially back then, that was probably so radical.

Ashley: 00:18:39

Oh, it was so radical.

Ashley: 00:18:40

People were probably so mad.

Ashley: 00:18:42

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Ashley: 00:18:43

Right.

Joya: 00:18:43

It's like, oh, you and yeah, those were the people that were

Joya: 00:18:46

people who were probably like, you're going straight to hell.

Joya: 00:18:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Ashley: 00:18:50

yeah.

Ashley: 00:18:50

They were like, wait, we don't like, because I feel like, I feel

Ashley: 00:18:56

very strongly about like, yes, the divine being part of every person.

Ashley: 00:19:00

And also like people pray so much like, oh, we're just gonna pray

Ashley: 00:19:03

to this God, pray, pray, pray.

Ashley: 00:19:05

But I'm like, well, if God is part of you, number one, however you feel

Ashley: 00:19:09

and however you're made is, is good.

Ashley: 00:19:11

Like there's something good.

Ashley: 00:19:12

Even if you feel like you do bad things or whatever.

Ashley: 00:19:15

Um, but also, It takes away that fear.

Ashley: 00:19:19

Some, like I, you know, a lot of churches and, and not just Christian

Ashley: 00:19:23

churches, but all over the world, different religions, they rule by fear.

Ashley: 00:19:27

You will go to this bad place when you die, or this terrible

Ashley: 00:19:30

thing will happen when you die.

Ashley: 00:19:32

You'll come back as a this or whatever.

Ashley: 00:19:35

And it takes away so much of that fear.

Ashley: 00:19:36

It's just like, oh wait, I am part of the divine.

Ashley: 00:19:39

So if I'm just like, cool, I'm like, like everything will be fine.

Ashley: 00:19:44

Even if I just think well and try my best.

Ashley: 00:19:46

Okay.

Joya: 00:19:47

Yeah.

Joya: 00:19:47

It's in you.

Joya: 00:19:48

Right?

Joya: 00:19:48

So it's like, um, my favorite way of saying it was comes from

Joya: 00:19:51

another new thought teacher.

Joya: 00:19:53

And John Randolph Christ.

Joya: 00:19:54

And he said, I was like, that's it right there.

Joya: 00:19:56

And he said, God is all of me, but I am not all of God.

Joya: 00:20:01

So it takes off that whole thing like I'm so a, like, it takes

Joya: 00:20:04

the ego out of the equation.

Joya: 00:20:06

It's like I'm a, I'm the sunbeam of the sun.

Joya: 00:20:08

I'm a drop of the ocean.

Joya: 00:20:10

That doesn't make me the whole ocean.

Joya: 00:20:11

Yes.

Joya: 00:20:12

All of the ocean in me.

Joya: 00:20:14

It's ingredients are in me, but I'm not the whole ocean.

Joya: 00:20:16

And I feel like the same thing is true of God, that I'm like, God is in me.

Joya: 00:20:21

I God is in you.

Joya: 00:20:22

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:20:22

Have that.

Joya: 00:20:23

We have that source in us, which means we have access to it.

Joya: 00:20:26

We can tune into it and.

Joya: 00:20:28

Um, you know, like my whole work now is like your body is a

Joya: 00:20:31

spiritual technology that's exact.

Joya: 00:20:33

I'm like all of my studies in neuroscience and all of my nerding and geeking

Joya: 00:20:36

out for 20 years, I'm like, oh, that was my, and so I could explain it and

Joya: 00:20:41

see and connect it that I'm like, oh, the body's a spiritual technology.

Joya: 00:20:44

We are, we are wired to be connected to sores.

Joya: 00:20:47

When we get our thinking ego out of the way and we stop thinking that we

Ashley: 00:20:51

are it.

Ashley: 00:20:52

Yes.

Ashley: 00:20:53

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:20:53

Ugh.

Ashley: 00:20:54

And it's so funny, like the amount of, now you obviously have studied things like

Ashley: 00:20:59

this, like neuroscience and quantum stuff.

Ashley: 00:21:01

I don't get it, but you are a very intelligent person and I admire all

Ashley: 00:21:05

the people who do, but all I know is that I hear it like people talk

Ashley: 00:21:08

about quantum physics and stuff and it makes it, I love that people are

Ashley: 00:21:13

studying that, especially people who are kind of spiritually inclined, cuz

Ashley: 00:21:16

it really is bringing that bridge to people be like, well I don't get it.

Ashley: 00:21:20

There's no like science and faith.

Ashley: 00:21:22

But I'm like, no, but there's tons.

Ashley: 00:21:23

I don't understand it, but there's tons of people who are

Ashley: 00:21:25

studying it and it sounds like.

Ashley: 00:21:27

There's, you know, correlation.

Ashley: 00:21:29

So it's really, really neat.

Joya: 00:21:31

Yeah.

Joya: 00:21:31

I just have it As you know, people, ancient spiritual teachers who've been

Joya: 00:21:36

teaching this stuff for eons, learned it through lived experience through

Joya: 00:21:40

practices, and then they became it, right?

Joya: 00:21:42

Yeah.

Joya: 00:21:42

So they became, they got in touch with this energy.

Joya: 00:21:45

Yeah.

Joya: 00:21:45

And so then as scientists study all this stuff, then all they're doing is

Joya: 00:21:50

validating what spiritual teachers have already known from with experience.

Joya: 00:21:53

They're just explaining how it's done.

Joya: 00:21:55

Although, except in the case of quantum physics, they're

Joya: 00:21:57

pretty much like, we don't know.

Joya: 00:21:58

We have no idea.

Joya: 00:22:00

We don't know.

Joya: 00:22:00

We just know that this is what happens.

Joya: 00:22:02

And all of us spiritual people are like, yep.

Ashley: 00:22:07

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:22:07

We're like, well, we, we kind of know.

Ashley: 00:22:09

They're like, yeah, but it's a mystery.

Ashley: 00:22:10

We're like, well, it's kind of a mystery, but I dunno.

Ashley: 00:22:14

That's awesome that, I love

Joya: 00:22:15

that so many of them have come to the conclusion

Joya: 00:22:17

that there has to be a creator.

Joya: 00:22:20

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:22:20

Like it's just so mathematically perfect.

Ashley: 00:22:25

Yes.

Ashley: 00:22:25

And

Joya: 00:22:25

so mysterious and so vast and incomprehensible that they're like,

Joya: 00:22:32

it's just not, it's not all an accident.

Joya: 00:22:33

There's no

Ashley: 00:22:34

way.

Ashley: 00:22:35

It's, it's insane.

Ashley: 00:22:36

Even when I was, In like college, I took like anatomy and when I was

Ashley: 00:22:40

learning anatomy, I would be like, what?

Ashley: 00:22:43

Like every the way everything is just connected in your body and works together.

Ashley: 00:22:48

I'm just like, this is insane.

Ashley: 00:22:51

It makes no sense like that somebody was just like, you know what I'm gonna do?

Ashley: 00:22:55

I'm gonna, your heart's gonna pump this way, but it's gonna deliver

Ashley: 00:22:58

all this blood to all here, but then it's also gonna do this.

Ashley: 00:23:01

And then this is, it's like, come on.

Ashley: 00:23:04

Like it doesn't, no person is this smart, right.

Ashley: 00:23:08

To create that.

Ashley: 00:23:09

Exactly.

Ashley: 00:23:09

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:23:10

There's still exactly, there's things in your body that people still, doctors

Ashley: 00:23:14

still don't understand why it happens.

Ashley: 00:23:16

They're like, this just happens sometimes.

Ashley: 00:23:18

It's insane.

Ashley: 00:23:18

Mm.

Joya: 00:23:19

Yeah.

Joya: 00:23:20

And there is no such thing as junk d n A.

Joya: 00:23:22

I'm like, no, it's it.

Joya: 00:23:23

It got disconnected somehow.

Joya: 00:23:25

But it's not junk.

Ashley: 00:23:27

No.

Ashley: 00:23:27

Everything.

Ashley: 00:23:29

Everything has a purpose and that's what's, it's just amazing.

Ashley: 00:23:34

Beautiful.

Ashley: 00:23:35

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:23:35

Oh gosh.

Ashley: 00:23:36

So this is great.

Ashley: 00:23:37

So, okay, so we're gonna go on to our next part of the show.

Ashley: 00:23:40

We're gonna talk about food now.

Ashley: 00:23:44

Very exciting.

Ashley: 00:23:44

My favorite subject.

Ashley: 00:23:48

So, um, we're every week we have a dish of the week, and I know

Ashley: 00:23:53

you said you're vegan, right?

Ashley: 00:23:55

Most of the time.

Ashley: 00:23:55

I do Most of

Joya: 00:23:56

the time, every now and then, but no problem.

Joya: 00:23:58

90%.

Ashley: 00:23:59

Vegan.

Ashley: 00:23:59

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:23:59

Sounds awesome.

Ashley: 00:24:01

Um, so I was like, let me pick a dish for her as vegan.

Ashley: 00:24:04

And I know you recently went to Egypt.

Ashley: 00:24:06

I did, yes.

Ashley: 00:24:08

I saw your pictures on Instagram.

Ashley: 00:24:09

Beautiful.

Ashley: 00:24:10

So I was like, all right, we're gonna do some Egyptian food cuz

Ashley: 00:24:13

you'll see why we're also talking about some Egyptian stuff later on.

Ashley: 00:24:16

So I found this dish that sounds really good.

Ashley: 00:24:18

It's called FMA Mud Mu FMAs.

Ashley: 00:24:22

I phonetically wrote it out.

Ashley: 00:24:24

Sorry to anybody who actually speaks Arabic.

Ashley: 00:24:26

I apologize.

Ashley: 00:24:27

I am not an Arabic speaker.

Ashley: 00:24:28

Um, so this is basically Stew Flava means, which are broad beans and it's

Ashley: 00:24:35

typically seasoned with a little ground human finished with extra olive oil.

Ashley: 00:24:40

And in Egypt they serve it with warm pizza bread and they sometimes

Ashley: 00:24:45

jazz it up with like lemon juice.

Ashley: 00:24:47

Fresh veggies and herbs and um, I got this all from the website

Ashley: 00:24:50

called , the Mediterranean dish.

Ashley: 00:24:52

All the links to everything I talk about will be in the show notes.

Ashley: 00:24:54

Oh, you're amazing.

Ashley: 00:24:55

I know it

Joya: 00:24:56

sounds I had that when I was in Egypt and it is so

Ashley: 00:24:58

good.

Ashley: 00:24:59

Okay.

Ashley: 00:25:00

So yeah, I was like, oh, she probably had this, because I think it said, I

Ashley: 00:25:03

don't know if it was Egypt's, national dish or just a really popular dish.

Ashley: 00:25:07

Yeah, very common.

Ashley: 00:25:08

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:25:08

Okay.

Ashley: 00:25:09

Yes.

Ashley: 00:25:09

Yeah, it sounds really, really good.

Ashley: 00:25:11

So yeah, you make it with a skillet and they warm it up with salt and cumin.

Ashley: 00:25:17

, you use a potato masher to mash the beans and then a with a mortar and pestle,

Ashley: 00:25:22

you have hot peppers and garlic, and then you add the hot peppers and garlic

Ashley: 00:25:27

to beans, and then you have pita bread and you can put sliced veggies in it.

Ashley: 00:25:31

All is sounds freaking delicious.

Ashley: 00:25:35

So good.

Ashley: 00:25:36

You're making me hungry.

Ashley: 00:25:37

I know.

Ashley: 00:25:37

I was like, oh, this sounds so good.

Ashley: 00:25:39

, so then to go with that, we have our drink of the week and our drink of the week.

Ashley: 00:25:42

It's called Sal Lab and this is an Egyptian hot creamy drink.

Ashley: 00:25:46

And this is also, a vegan drink too.

Ashley: 00:25:49

So it's very also very popular.

Ashley: 00:25:52

Apparently in Turkey it's one fourth cup water, one and a half tablespoons

Ashley: 00:25:58

of corn flour, one teaspoon of sugar, one tablespoon, sorry, one

Ashley: 00:26:03

teaspoon of rose water and cinnamon powder and crushed pistachios.

Ashley: 00:26:08

Ooh.

Ashley: 00:26:09

Which also sounds really good., There is.

Ashley: 00:26:12

When I found this, I was like, I have to mention this.

Ashley: 00:26:14

I live in New Jersey.

Ashley: 00:26:15

There is a Persian restaurant in Morristown, New Jersey, and

Ashley: 00:26:20

they serve rosewater ice cream.

Ashley: 00:26:22

Ooh.

Ashley: 00:26:23

It's amazing.

Ashley: 00:26:25

The first time I went there I was like, I'll try it.

Ashley: 00:26:26

It was so good.

Ashley: 00:26:27

I have to go back cuz it's like Wow, problem.

Ashley: 00:26:30

It's so good.

Ashley: 00:26:31

Oh

Joya: 00:26:31

my gosh.

Joya: 00:26:32

I'm like, I don't eat ice cream, but uh, like a rosewater gelato would be, so,

Ashley: 00:26:36

Hmm.

Ashley: 00:26:37

That sounds really good.

Ashley: 00:26:38

Doesn't that sound

Joya: 00:26:39

amazing?

Joya: 00:26:39

I'm gonna find out.

Joya: 00:26:40

I'm writing myself a note to

Ashley: 00:26:41

find out.

Ashley: 00:26:43

I know there's gotta be a way.

Ashley: 00:26:45

There has to be.

Ashley: 00:26:46

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:26:47

Anything with, yeah, anything with rose water is good.

Ashley: 00:26:51

anyway, so, so those are our two dishes.

Ashley: 00:26:54

So, um, this is a point of the show where I tell you that if you are

Ashley: 00:26:58

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you can always email us at dine with the divine pod gmail.com and at the

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end we're gonna go into all of Joy's stuff so that you can follow her too.

Ashley: 00:27:35

Now we'll get onto our next topic.

Ashley: 00:27:38

So, so this part of the show, I like to call it like tee time.

Ashley: 00:27:41

So we kind of do like a little educational thing.

Ashley: 00:27:44

So I looked up a bunch of stuff, everything I looked up like, and

Ashley: 00:27:47

I was reading about you and you mentioned earlier that you do a lot

Ashley: 00:27:50

of work with Mary Magdalene or that you really enjoyed working with her.

Ashley: 00:27:54

Yes.

Ashley: 00:27:54

So I went on this deep dive.

Ashley: 00:27:57

On Mary Magdalene and my God, I was shocked.

Ashley: 00:28:02

You're

Joya: 00:28:02

talking about my favorite subject.

Ashley: 00:28:04

Okay, awesome.

Ashley: 00:28:05

This is so exciting.

Ashley: 00:28:06

Okay.

Ashley: 00:28:06

I was okay.

Ashley: 00:28:07

I furiously started texting my friend who is um, very Catholic, um, but she's

Ashley: 00:28:12

a very cool Catholic, she's very liberal.

Ashley: 00:28:14

Um, and I was like, did you know that Mary Magdalene wasn't even not prostitute?

Ashley: 00:28:18

And she's like, yes, Ashley, everybody knew this.

Ashley: 00:28:20

And I was like, oh great.

Ashley: 00:28:20

Um, I was like, I guess I have the last, everybody now I know she

Ashley: 00:28:25

didn't actually say it, but the way she's like, nicest person on earth.

Ashley: 00:28:28

But in my head I'm like, she thinks I'm dumb, but she didn't.

Ashley: 00:28:31

Um, she's so sweet.

Ashley: 00:28:32

Um, so basically I found out that um, Mary of Magdala, which is like

Ashley: 00:28:39

technically where she was from, is called Magdala and it was a town

Ashley: 00:28:42

near the, I'll find it in my notes.

Ashley: 00:28:44

Just gimme a minute.

Ashley: 00:28:45

Anyway, that's the town she's from.

Ashley: 00:28:47

If you didn't know, cuz I didn't, , she is extremely misunderstood and.

Ashley: 00:28:52

There's a lot of things.

Ashley: 00:28:53

We're gonna go into it right now.

Ashley: 00:28:55

So this is a quote from an article in the Smithsonian Magazine that I found.

Ashley: 00:29:01

It's called Who is Mary Magdalene by James Carroll.

Ashley: 00:29:04

So I'm just gonna read this quote and then we're gonna talk more.

Ashley: 00:29:07

So here we go.

Ashley: 00:29:08

It starts with, from the New Testament, one can conclude that Mary

Ashley: 00:29:12

of Magdala, her hometown, a village on the shore of the Sea of Galilee.

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Was a leading figure among those who attracted to Jesus when the

Ashley: 00:29:20

men in that company abandoned him at his hour of moral danger.

Ashley: 00:29:24

Mary of Magdala was one of the women who stayed with him even to the crucifixion.

Ashley: 00:29:29

She was present at the tomb, the first person whom Jesus appeared to after his

Ashley: 00:29:33

resurrection and the first to preach the quote, good news of that miracle.

Ashley: 00:29:38

These are among the few specific assertions made of Mary Magdalene

Ashley: 00:29:42

in the gospels from other texts of the early Christian era.

Ashley: 00:29:46

It seems that her status as a apostle in the years after Jesus' death rivaled

Ashley: 00:29:51

even that of Peter, that prominence, that prominence derived from the intimacy

Ashley: 00:29:57

of her relationship with Jesus, which according to some, had a physical

Ashley: 00:30:01

aspect, including kissing beginning.

Ashley: 00:30:04

With the threads of these few statements of the earliest Christian records

Ashley: 00:30:08

dating to the first through third centuries, an elaborate tapestry was

Ashley: 00:30:12

woven leading to a portrait of St.

Ashley: 00:30:15

Mary Magdalene, in which most consequential note that she

Ashley: 00:30:20

was a repugnant prostitute is almost certainly untrue.

Ashley: 00:30:24

On the false note hangs the dual news to which her legend has been put ever since.

Ashley: 00:30:31

Discredit, discrediting sexuality in general and

Ashley: 00:30:34

disempowering women in particular.

Ashley: 00:30:37

So I read more into the article and I'll read more of stuff

Ashley: 00:30:41

later, but the first thing that made me angry, which is multiple.

Ashley: 00:30:45

The first thing that made me angry.

Ashley: 00:30:46

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:30:48

I was like, what?

Ashley: 00:30:50

So the first thing that made me angry is that like, okay, let's

Ashley: 00:30:53

talk about the first thing is that there's Mad Marys in the gospel.

Ashley: 00:30:57

So there's multiple Marys and.

Ashley: 00:31:01

They talk about in the article how Mary Magdalene like the gospels, which are

Ashley: 00:31:06

the first four books of the New Testament.

Ashley: 00:31:10

The canonical gospels.

Ashley: 00:31:12

Exactly.

Ashley: 00:31:13

Yes.

Ashley: 00:31:13

This, see, this is why I was like, I can't wait to talk to you about it

Ashley: 00:31:15

cuz you know this way better than me.

Ashley: 00:31:17

This is great.

Joya: 00:31:18

I love that you know this and you're bringing it up.

Ashley: 00:31:21

Ok, good.

Ashley: 00:31:21

I had no idea what we were gonna talk about, so awesome.

Ashley: 00:31:24

Good.

Ashley: 00:31:24

That's why I like to be a surprise, but I was like, okay, she knows

Ashley: 00:31:27

a lot more about this than so we'll have a good conversation.

Ashley: 00:31:29

Um, so they were written like 35 some 65 years after, um, Christ was resurrected.

Ashley: 00:31:39

So, um, the thing is if you think back 35 years, I'm like, oh, my memory might

Ashley: 00:31:44

be a little hazy of what had happened.

Ashley: 00:31:47

Now it's not that everyone's memory, they didn't know what happened, but

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like I said, there's like five Marys.

Ashley: 00:31:53

Hanging out.

Ashley: 00:31:53

I'll tell you, hold on.

Ashley: 00:31:55

We have Mary, who's Jesus's mom.

Ashley: 00:31:57

Everybody knows, , Virgin Mary.

Ashley: 00:31:59

Then we have Mary of Bethany, who is the sister of a different Mary and Lazarus.

Ashley: 00:32:04

Then we have Mary, the mother of James and Joseph, and we

Ashley: 00:32:07

have Mary the wife of Clo Pass.

Ashley: 00:32:10

And I don't know who Clo PAs is, but that's fine.

Ashley: 00:32:13

She's somewhere in the gospels.

Ashley: 00:32:15

So because we have, and then we have Mary Magdalene, because there were

Ashley: 00:32:19

so many Marys, they kind of mixed up some of the stories kind of, and when

Ashley: 00:32:24

we read it, we don't know which Mary sometimes they were really talking

Ashley: 00:32:28

to, because when they wrote everything down, their memory wasn't as clear

Ashley: 00:32:32

as it was when it initially happened.

Ashley: 00:32:36

So a lot of things kind of got mixed up.

Ashley: 00:32:39

And then Mary Magdalene's story kind of got mixed up in everybody else's story.

Ashley: 00:32:44

So that's just part of it.

Ashley: 00:32:46

Like there's a way more, but it's like, so we don't know purely like her

Ashley: 00:32:51

line of what exactly happened with her except for certain things we do know.

Ashley: 00:32:55

She was the first person to see Jesus after he resurrected.

Ashley: 00:32:59

And we know she was the last one to leave cuz she was a right or die.

Ashley: 00:33:02

She was like a friend like no other.

Ashley: 00:33:05

So the other thing is also if.

Ashley: 00:33:11

So if anybody is listening to this, and you guys don't know

Ashley: 00:33:14

when they made the Bible, there was tons of books in the Bible.

Ashley: 00:33:17

Oh yeah.

Ashley: 00:33:19

There was Mad books.

Ashley: 00:33:20

And we might just have an episode about that because it's, it's Wild guys.

Ashley: 00:33:24

There was mad books and they had to pick and choose which ones were

Ashley: 00:33:29

gonna be part of the official bible.

Ashley: 00:33:32

And that was, uh, Constantine, I think.

Ashley: 00:33:35

Correct.

Ashley: 00:33:35

In the year 3 25.

Ashley: 00:33:37

Perfect.

Ashley: 00:33:37

Thank you so much.

Ashley: 00:33:38

Oh my God, I'm so bad with gates.

Ashley: 00:33:39

Thank you.

Ashley: 00:33:40

You're the best.

Ashley: 00:33:40

Um, I just, I only remember people.

Ashley: 00:33:44

I never remember dates, so, yeah.

Ashley: 00:33:45

Oh God, joy, you're so great.

Ashley: 00:33:47

Okay, so, yes.

Ashley: 00:33:49

So Constantine, he had a council, correct?

Ashley: 00:33:51

Right?

Ashley: 00:33:52

Yep.

Ashley: 00:33:52

The nice council.

Ashley: 00:33:53

Yes, the council ea And they all decided which books were gonna be in the Bible.

Ashley: 00:33:57

Now remember, there's two things at play here.

Ashley: 00:34:00

More than two things, but two big things.

Ashley: 00:34:02

Number one, We have to politically decide what's gonna be in there because we can't

Ashley: 00:34:08

have people thinking they're too free.

Ashley: 00:34:10

Especially not ladies, you know, like we gotta suppress the ladies a little bit.

Ashley: 00:34:15

We can't do that.

Ashley: 00:34:16

And also we have to pick and choose what we wanna translate,

Ashley: 00:34:20

what sounds right to us.

Ashley: 00:34:21

Oh, and the second, that brings me to the second thing.

Ashley: 00:34:24

Translation.

Ashley: 00:34:26

A lot of things were not okay.

Ashley: 00:34:31

For instance, there's words in our language that maybe if you went

Ashley: 00:34:34

to, I don't know, Mongolia, they don't have a word for, or they have

Ashley: 00:34:38

words that we don't have words for.

Ashley: 00:34:40

So we end up.

Ashley: 00:34:43

Changing those words.

Ashley: 00:34:44

oh, very good example is right now I'm teaching like a, a

Ashley: 00:34:49

course on ancestor reverence.

Ashley: 00:34:52

And the way we speak about ancestors in the western world, we say worship, but

Ashley: 00:34:59

it's not worship that you're trying to do.

Ashley: 00:35:01

It's reverence saying like, oh, we revere these people, we respect them,

Ashley: 00:35:05

but we don't have a proper word like they do in some cultures to describe

Ashley: 00:35:10

how they treat their ancestors.

Ashley: 00:35:11

So when early Christians went to these cultures, they're like,

Ashley: 00:35:14

oh, they worshiped dead people.

Ashley: 00:35:16

But that's not what they were doing.

Ashley: 00:35:18

They made altars because they're like, no, these, these are people who have

Ashley: 00:35:21

died and they're closer to our creator than we are, so we just respect them.

Ashley: 00:35:25

So it's that kind of thing.

Ashley: 00:35:27

So when they had to translate the Bible, they had to translate

Ashley: 00:35:30

it for political reasons.

Ashley: 00:35:31

They had to translate it for what was gonna work best for them.

Ashley: 00:35:34

And then I.

Ashley: 00:35:35

Sometimes the translations weren't that great.

Ashley: 00:35:37

Like, oh my gosh, it

Joya: 00:35:40

was translated from Aramaic to Greek to English.

Ashley: 00:35:43

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:35:44

Hello.

Ashley: 00:35:44

Right.

Ashley: 00:35:45

And then later on every 500 years I think they say a language completely changes.

Ashley: 00:35:51

So now you've translated it from three languages.

Ashley: 00:35:54

Now you keep going, keep going, keep going.

Ashley: 00:35:57

Then they translated probably to Latin, cuz you know, back then everybody was

Ashley: 00:36:00

speaking Latin in the medieval times.

Ashley: 00:36:02

There was only certain people remember back then who could even read.

Ashley: 00:36:05

Right.

Ashley: 00:36:06

So because, so because of that everybody kind of got to say what they wanted.

Ashley: 00:36:11

Like, oh this is in the Bible.

Ashley: 00:36:12

Oh this is in the Bible.

Ashley: 00:36:14

Like, well cuz everybody couldn't read it.

Ashley: 00:36:16

So anyway, this is the story of the Bible.

Ashley: 00:36:20

So things got really muddied.

Ashley: 00:36:22

Right.

Ashley: 00:36:22

Okay.

Ashley: 00:36:23

So we find out later on Also, Mary had a whole book.

Ashley: 00:36:29

Yes, yes.

Ashley: 00:36:30

So let me find this in my notes, because it was fascinating.

Ashley: 00:36:34

There was a whole book for Mary, but then they kind of just didn't care about it.

Ashley: 00:36:39

Like I said, there's a bunch of books they didn't add into the Bible.

Ashley: 00:36:42

Some stories,

Joya: 00:36:43

definitely not.

Joya: 00:36:44

The one from the female apostle that was not

Ashley: 00:36:46

getting in there.

Ashley: 00:36:46

No, they said, Parone, we're taking

Joya: 00:36:50

that out and we're the prostitute instead.

Ashley: 00:36:52

Yeah, absolutely.

Ashley: 00:36:54

Because like, what's easier, and then,

Ashley: 00:36:56

so there's a part in the, the Mary's part of the Bible where I can't

Ashley: 00:37:03

find, oh, well, what Mary says.

Ashley: 00:37:05

She's talking to Peter.

Ashley: 00:37:06

All right.

Ashley: 00:37:06

Peter's one of the other apostles and she's Michelle apostle.

Ashley: 00:37:10

Oh, hello.

Ashley: 00:37:11

Okay.

Ashley: 00:37:12

I didn't even know.

Ashley: 00:37:13

So Peter was like, Okay, so Peter says to Mary in this line, he says,

Ashley: 00:37:19

sister, we know that the savior loved you more than all other women.

Ashley: 00:37:23

Tell us the words of which a . Savior, that you remember the

Ashley: 00:37:26

things which, you know, that we don't because we haven't heard them.

Ashley: 00:37:31

So Mary responded, I will teach you about what is hidden from you.

Ashley: 00:37:35

And she begins to speak all these words.

Ashley: 00:37:37

So Mary starts, she had a vision.

Ashley: 00:37:40

She's telling everybody, you guys, Jesus told me some stuff.

Ashley: 00:37:42

It was wild.

Ashley: 00:37:43

Let me tell you, guess who gets mad?

Ashley: 00:37:45

Like you just said Peter.

Ashley: 00:37:48

Cause Peter's like, wait a minute.

Ashley: 00:37:50

Are you telling me that Jesus like you better than us?

Ashley: 00:37:55

But then I think it was Simon.

Ashley: 00:37:59

Yeah, I think Simon was like, wait, Peter, shut up.

Ashley: 00:38:01

Because all she's doing is just if, if Jesus told her something

Ashley: 00:38:05

worth of value, why can't she talk?

Ashley: 00:38:07

Why are you getting mad?

Ashley: 00:38:08

But Peter was mad.

Ashley: 00:38:10

Human bitch ass.

Ashley: 00:38:11

That's okay.

Ashley: 00:38:11

So sorry.

Ashley: 00:38:14

No, I'm not trying to be rude.

Ashley: 00:38:15

But he gets really mad.

Ashley: 00:38:16

And then goes on to talk about all these other things, but kind

Ashley: 00:38:19

of starts leaving mariet of the narrative, which is not fair.

Ashley: 00:38:25

Hold on.

Ashley: 00:38:26

There's so much here.

Ashley: 00:38:27

I have to just talk about this other thing.

Ashley: 00:38:29

So anyway, so they leave Mary Eye the narrative.

Ashley: 00:38:32

They get rid of her book.

Ashley: 00:38:33

Actually her book turned up in like an Egyptian market in, the late 18 hundreds.

Ashley: 00:38:39

I think it was 1895.

Ashley: 00:38:40

And they found it, but it was all tattered.

Ashley: 00:38:43

So they tried to retrieve it and translate it and they, they have it.

Ashley: 00:38:47

There is somebody who made a translation of it so you can find it.

Ashley: 00:38:50

But again, they didn't include that in the, Bible for obvious reasons,

Ashley: 00:38:56

because they were not gonna say that there is a woman who was allowed to

Ashley: 00:39:00

be at that level with the apostles.

Ashley: 00:39:03

And they talk about in this article how there was actually a lot of

Ashley: 00:39:09

people who are Jesus' friends.

Ashley: 00:39:10

He had, they just kind of settled on the number 12, but they were like,

Ashley: 00:39:14

he had a lot of men and women who were his friends who like hung out

Ashley: 00:39:19

with him and really supported him.

Ashley: 00:39:23

Yes, yes.

Ashley: 00:39:25

And so then we get to the part about.

Ashley: 00:39:30

It's the prostitute thing.

Ashley: 00:39:32

All right.

Ashley: 00:39:33

There's a couple things going on here.

Ashley: 00:39:35

There is a part of Jesus' story where they talk about how he had

Ashley: 00:39:41

some female attendants and each of the female attendants, he

Ashley: 00:39:45

cast out demons from them, right?

Ashley: 00:39:49

But those demons, and they talk about could have been physical ailments.

Ashley: 00:39:54

They didn't necessarily have to be moral ailments, but in order to, again,

Ashley: 00:39:59

suppress women, they have to boil them always down to the sexual part of them.

Ashley: 00:40:05

So they're like, yeah, they're like, oh, she had a demonn.

Ashley: 00:40:07

It must have been cuz she was a, a whore.

Ashley: 00:40:09

Like, no, like some of these people may have had illnesses, even

Ashley: 00:40:14

something like a mental illness, maybe depression, things like that.

Ashley: 00:40:18

And he healed them from that.

Ashley: 00:40:19

But everything had to be boiled down to her sexuality because how

Ashley: 00:40:23

dare she have be a more complex being than just being sexual.

Ashley: 00:40:29

And the, the other thing that makes me incredibly angry is that with all

Ashley: 00:40:34

of this, you think like the church had such a chance to be liberal

Ashley: 00:40:40

and to be, you know what I mean?

Ashley: 00:40:42

Like such a chance to show that like, women could be so many things, but instead

Ashley: 00:40:53

they were like, no, no, no, no, no.

Ashley: 00:40:54

Because we don't want the ladies to think for themselves and we don't want

Ashley: 00:40:57

them to wanna be the Pope or be priest.

Ashley: 00:41:00

And it's almost just silly and it's sad because this is thousands of years now

Ashley: 00:41:05

of like the patriarchy in Christianity that has affected so many parts of the

Ashley: 00:41:11

world that could have been so different.

Ashley: 00:41:15

Right.

Ashley: 00:41:15

You know what I mean?

Joya: 00:41:16

Yeah.

Joya: 00:41:16

Oh totally.

Joya: 00:41:18

Yeah.

Joya: 00:41:19

And um, so my trip that I went on to Egypt mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:41:23

Was actually, In on a spiritual pilgrimage following Mary Magdalene.

Joya: 00:41:29

Mm.

Joya: 00:41:30

Because she was a scent priestess.

Joya: 00:41:33

She was a mirror for mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:41:35

Which is why the story in the Bible of her washing Jesus' feet and the oil with

Joya: 00:41:41

her hair and they all got angry because how dare she used a whole jar of alabaster

Ashley: 00:41:46

alabaster

Joya: 00:41:46

jar oil on his feet.

Joya: 00:41:48

Who is this woman?

Joya: 00:41:50

Because, and what she was doing was anointing him because Spikenard is the oil

Joya: 00:41:56

that ushers your soul to the other side.

Joya: 00:41:58

And so since they knew he was going to be crucified, she was anointing him for

Joya: 00:42:03

his upcoming journey to the other side.

Joya: 00:42:07

Yes.

Joya: 00:42:07

And so, you know, she actually studied in the temple of Isis.

Joya: 00:42:12

Mm.

Joya: 00:42:12

With the goddesses or the priestesses who studied sound.

Joya: 00:42:16

There were sound healers who studied in Egypt.

Joya: 00:42:18

There were scent priestesses who studied in Egypt.

Joya: 00:42:21

They were very revered women.

Joya: 00:42:23

Back in those days, they were healers and they studied at, um, Alexandria.

Joya: 00:42:29

And so these women were very powerful women.

Joya: 00:42:32

They were very powerful women.

Joya: 00:42:33

And, um, Magdalo where Mary Magdalene was from was actually a re a rebels port.

Joya: 00:42:39

I don't know if you

Ashley: 00:42:40

read that part in there.

Ashley: 00:42:41

I did not.

Ashley: 00:42:42

Yes.

Joya: 00:42:42

It was where all of the outliers and rebels went who were

Joya: 00:42:46

rebelling against the government who were like, they were fighting back.

Joya: 00:42:49

And so of course, Jesus wound up there because Jesus was a rebel.

Joya: 00:42:52

He went Yes.

Joya: 00:42:53

Part of revolution.

Joya: 00:42:54

And his revolution was teaching people to awaken.

Joya: 00:42:58

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:42:58

He was teaching people to get in touch with God within themselves,

Joya: 00:43:02

that they have this power in them that they all have access to.

Joya: 00:43:07

Um, a lot of people believe that he and Mary Magdalene were actually married.

Joya: 00:43:11

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:43:11

And that there's a child who came out of that we, that wedlock, Mary Magdalene

Joya: 00:43:16

actually fled, uh, persecution after.

Joya: 00:43:20

Jesus's death and she went to um, France.

Joya: 00:43:24

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:43:24

And so you can go to the caves there where she was.

Joya: 00:43:27

And there's lots of churches there dedicated to her.

Joya: 00:43:30

And ironically, it's actually where, uh, they believe that Mary Magdalene was not

Joya: 00:43:36

a white woman, which of course she wasn't.

Joya: 00:43:37

They were in the Middle East, so hello.

Joya: 00:43:40

But that they have the black Madonna there.

Joya: 00:43:42

Yes.

Joya: 00:43:42

Yes.

Joya: 00:43:43

So she and a lot of people believe that she actually originated from Ethiopia.

Ashley: 00:43:48

Wow.

Ashley: 00:43:48

That she was an

Joya: 00:43:49

Ethiopian priestess who traveled up to Egypt and to study mm-hmm.

Ashley: 00:43:54

In Egypt.

Ashley: 00:43:55

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:43:56

Wow.

Ashley: 00:43:56

That makes, I mean, that makes sense to me.

Ashley: 00:43:59

Makes sense to me too.

Ashley: 00:44:00

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:44:00

Makes complete sense

Joya: 00:44:01

to me.

Joya: 00:44:02

Makes perfect sense to me.

Ashley: 00:44:03

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:44:04

It's, yeah, it's, oh God, it's, it's, it's just fascinating cuz I'm

Ashley: 00:44:09

like, after all this time, we're still not telling people this.

Ashley: 00:44:13

I was like, nobody knows, like, I mean, people know obviously, but like this isn't

Ashley: 00:44:17

widely known stuff unless you look for it.

Ashley: 00:44:19

Right, right.

Ashley: 00:44:20

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:44:20

Or you know, somebody like Joya who knows about this stuff.

Ashley: 00:44:23

Like if you don't or my friend Jillian, a long time.

Ashley: 00:44:27

Exactly.

Ashley: 00:44:28

And there's actually a church

Joya: 00:44:30

window in Scotland that, that was, um, I think the church was built in the

Joya: 00:44:35

17 hundreds that depicts Jesus and Mary as husband and wife, and she's pregnant.

Ashley: 00:44:41

Hmm.

Ashley: 00:44:41

Interesting.

Ashley: 00:44:42

Right?

Ashley: 00:44:43

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:44:45

I'm telling you, there's a lot.

Ashley: 00:44:46

It's, it's just, it's so controlled what they want you to know, but like, there's

Ashley: 00:44:51

so much, if you just dig a little bit, now that I've done a little bit of

Ashley: 00:44:54

like, not compared to what you've done, but like done a tiny bit of research.

Ashley: 00:44:58

I was like, wow, this is crazy.

Ashley: 00:45:01

It's

Joya: 00:45:02

opened up a rabbit hole of all of this information

Joya: 00:45:04

and it does make you angry.

Joya: 00:45:06

It's like all of this, all of this information has been so suppressed

Joya: 00:45:10

and the power of women and the power of sacred sexuality and the power

Joya: 00:45:15

that women have to, you know, that we are the activators of the men.

Joya: 00:45:20

We need each other, right?

Joya: 00:45:21

We need the divine women and the divine masculine and that like, you know, like

Joya: 00:45:25

when I was in, in Egypt and they were talking about Queen Nefertiti, that she

Joya: 00:45:29

was the favorite wife because of the fact that she was so enlightened and so wise.

Joya: 00:45:34

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:45:34

So the king relied on her so much for her wisdom because she imbued it.

Joya: 00:45:39

To him, just by the very nature of who she was.

Joya: 00:45:42

Yeah.

Joya: 00:45:42

And that's what women do.

Joya: 00:45:43

That's exactly what we do, is imbue other people with the vibration of who we are.

Joya: 00:45:50

And men pick it up by osmosis of the women that they're around.

Ashley: 00:45:54

Perfect.

Ashley: 00:45:55

Thank you.

Ashley: 00:45:57

You're very good at speaking.

Ashley: 00:45:59

They think the way you say things, it's like, yes, it's my passion.

Ashley: 00:46:02

I love this topic.

Ashley: 00:46:05

I'm so happy.

Ashley: 00:46:06

I love this topic.

Ashley: 00:46:07

Yeah, that is, and yes, everything you said, yes.

Ashley: 00:46:10

And then also there's like another reason I, it's also in this article

Ashley: 00:46:16

that I read, they talk about, um, the reason they wanted to kind of sexualize

Ashley: 00:46:21

her or make her seem like, and when I say sexualized, it's not in a good way.

Ashley: 00:46:25

They wanted to make her seem like she was a degenerate or something that,

Ashley: 00:46:29

because sex is bad, I guess, to them because they want to be weird about it.

Ashley: 00:46:32

But, um, like so right.

Ashley: 00:46:34

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:46:35

I'm like, sex is fine, but whatever.

Ashley: 00:46:37

Okay.

Ashley: 00:46:38

I'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole right now.

Ashley: 00:46:39

Um, but also because Jesus was so, he respected women so much

Ashley: 00:46:46

and he never looked at them as like, like I said before, he had

Ashley: 00:46:51

all these followers and friends.

Ashley: 00:46:52

They were women and men.

Ashley: 00:46:54

He didn't treat them different because some were men and some were women.

Ashley: 00:46:57

He didn't care.

Joya: 00:46:58

Yeah, no.

Joya: 00:46:59

And he was in a scene.

Joya: 00:47:00

Right.

Joya: 00:47:00

He was from the ASCE culture.

Joya: 00:47:02

And so in the ASCE communities, men and women were totally equal.

Joya: 00:47:06

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:47:07

They all sat around having intellectual discourse and talking about things and

Joya: 00:47:12

learning and studying the ways of nature.

Joya: 00:47:15

They actually were followers of, of what they called the way.

Joya: 00:47:18

Mm.

Joya: 00:47:18

And they knew, they knew things that we now verify, of course,

Joya: 00:47:22

with science and with psychology.

Joya: 00:47:25

Like they knew to keep your mind and your thoughts occupied and

Joya: 00:47:28

busy and focusing on things.

Joya: 00:47:29

Otherwise, the mind left.

Joya: 00:47:32

Of on its own, just runs amok.

Joya: 00:47:33

Yes.

Joya: 00:47:34

And it starts believing itself.

Joya: 00:47:35

Instead of, you start telling yourself a story and believing that story rather

Joya: 00:47:39

than your, you consciously telling yourself what you want to think.

Joya: 00:47:42

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:47:43

And that's a totally different vibration.

Joya: 00:47:45

Right.

Joya: 00:47:45

And so Jesus actually came from that culture.

Joya: 00:47:48

He was in a scene, his parents were a scenes.

Joya: 00:47:50

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 00:47:50

And so it's, you know, that's why he met Mary the Magula

Joya: 00:47:54

because she was a priestess.

Joya: 00:47:55

She worked in the same kind of field of energy work.

Ashley: 00:47:59

Yeah.

Ashley: 00:47:59

Yes, yes.

Ashley: 00:48:01

Okay.

Ashley: 00:48:02

I love this.

Ashley: 00:48:03

Um, but.

Ashley: 00:48:06

Okay, so everybody, this is my thing.

Ashley: 00:48:09

If you don't know all this stuff, please look it up.

Ashley: 00:48:11

Um, like I said, I have two articles on there, one's from the Smithsonian

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and one is from somebody who is a doctor of, I think, religion in Canada.

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I found a really good article that she wrote, so there's tons of

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information about this out there.

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If you're interested in reading more about Mary Magdalene, um,

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Dr.

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Elaine PAs, also p a g e l S.

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She's phenomenal.

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And she's the one who interpreted the books of, uh, the Naja scriptures.

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So she helped with the interpretations of those.

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Books that were found in Egypt.

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So she's, oh my gosh.

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She talks about Mary Magdalene so much and, um, what the

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misappropriation of women, period.

Joya: 00:48:53

Mm-hmm.

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Who, how, you know, the power of women and how we were persecuted

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is, and put down and murdered.

Joya: 00:48:58

Yeah.

Joya: 00:48:58

For being witches.

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For being witches.

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Mm-hmm.

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For being midwives.

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For being stewards of nature.

Joya: 00:49:03

Yes.

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So,

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yeah.

Ashley: 00:49:04

Okay.

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So after this is done, I'm gonna get the spelling for that and I'm gonna put a

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link to that person's page in there too.

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Awesome.

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So you guys can look stuff up.

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Okay.

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So, because I don't wanna, I wanna honor your time too, we're gonna

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move on to our, our last topic here.

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So in this podcast, what I'm gonna do is tell you a story and because

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you went to Egypt, Egypt, we're gonna talk about ISIS and Ozy.

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This is, Ooh.

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Yes.

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So this is a story, and you mean of the story.

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Lot of people are, I'm wearing a goddess ISIS necklace.

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Ooh.

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Yeah.

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I'm so glad this is so, okay.

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This is fantastic.

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I'm so happy.

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Okay.

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I'm so happy this is working out.

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Okay.

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So, all right.

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So you may have heard this story, and there's different versions of this story

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everywhere, but this is the story, the version that I like, and I kind of put

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different parts in it, but I also put links to, there is a big version of it.

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Um, this podcast I listened to called Mythology.

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So there's links in the show notes to that too.

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So we'll talk about, this is a story of Isis and o Cyrus.

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Well, this is a story of everybody, a lot of the Egyptian gods.

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So you're gonna see how this goes.

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Okay?

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And here we go.

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So, in the beginning, there was nothing okay, nothing.

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And yes, there was nothing.

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And then we have aum.

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So there was a God named Aum and he created himself out of literally nothing.

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So he's Aam walking around and then he got bored one day and he is like, I

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think I need other gods to hang out with.

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And I have none and I'm so bored.

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So Aam created two Gods Shu and Tef Newt.

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And Tefnut Shu is a God now of ar and Tefnut became the goddess of water

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and as was the tradition in Egypt.

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And you see it go on and on and on.

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We have brothers and sisters that get married and have kids, but at

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this point there's only two people.

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What are you gonna do?

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They kind of have to, , So they got together and they had two other kids.

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So they had Gbb and they had Newt.

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Gbb is the god of the earth.

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Newt is the god of the sky, goddess of the sky.

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So at this point, atom's watching his kids and his grandkids running around

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and he's like, oh my God, I'm so happy.

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I love them so much, so great.

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So here we go, Otto's tiering.

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And all of a sudden, I don't know, he's a God.

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So his tears create people.

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Great.

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This is awesome.

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I can't even, so, so now he has people and the people are walking around and they're

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having a great time and everybody's fine.

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Um, but then Otto got pissed off because he's like, you know what?

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These people aren't worshiping me the way I thought they were gonna.

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He's like, what?

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What's going on?

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I thought they were gonna be creating temples and giving me offerings,

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and they're just down there laughing and they're not talking to me.

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So you know what I've decided I'm gonna torture them.

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Like, okay, bro, that was a lot.

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But okay, so he gets his granddaughter, Newt This's, a goddess

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of the sky, and he is like, Newt, you're gonna do something for me.

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You're gonna make the date, you're gonna make the sky so clear and

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you're gonna make my race so powerful that it's just gonna burn

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people and dry up all the water.

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Newt was like, I really don't feel like doing this right now.

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And he's like, well, you have to because you're my granddaughter and I'm, I created

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myself outta nothing, so you better do it.

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And she's like, fine.

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She's like, okay, fine.

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So she does it.

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So she's doing this for a while.

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She's like, I really hate doing this when I'm doing it.

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And then after a while, Otten then gets mad at Newt cuz he's like,

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whoa, Newt is like super powerful.

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And one day she could maybe have kids that are power more powerful than me.

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So he's like, okay Newt, I have a decree you can't have

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kids on any day of the year.

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And Newt was like, what?

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That's so weird.

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Okay.

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So he's like, yep, that's what I'm telling you.

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And that's the rule.

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So what did Newt do?

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She's the guy of the sky.

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She's like, I think I'm just gonna make more days.

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I'm gonna make, so she made three more days.

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So on the first day she had a little bean boy and his name was Osiris.

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And all of a sudden outta nowhere, all the gods heard of voice, they

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don't know where this voice came from.

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And it said this is the Lord of all and he's gonna be a great and.

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loved King.

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Nobody knows where this voice came from, but now AAM is scared cuz

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Aam has never heard this voice.

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He doesn't know what's going on, but he realizes like, Ooh, or Cyrus might

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take over from me, but I'm just not gonna worry about this right now.

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So then the next day she had two twins, ISIS and the Bedhead.

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So ISIS and the Bedhead were complete opposites in every way.

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Isis was loving and kind.

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She's the goddess of magic, the goddess of nature of healing.

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The bedhead didn't really care about anything.

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She was kind of just into herself.

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She wasn't really bad, but she just didn't care.

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Like she wasn't really in anything.

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She's just like, whatever.

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I'm just here.

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I'm also a goddess, which is cool, but I'm just like, whatever.

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I'm for myself.

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So then on the third day, She had another baby and this baby's name

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was set and set was kind of a jerk.

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He loved to play tricks on the other gods.

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He loved to run around and um, just cause chaos all the time.

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And everybody knew this, but they just kind of let him do it cuz they

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didn't know what else to do and he's a God, how much can you do?

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So again, as was the custom, uh, Osiris ended up marrying Isis and the behead

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ended up marrying Seth, um, because Osiris also was super, super sweet.

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Again the opposite of his brother Seth.

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And, um, so they got married.

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Now life is going on and because Isis is such like a sweet and good person, and

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so was O Cyrus, they both really hated the fact that AAM was torturing people.

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He's like, there's no reason for this, like, This is terrible.

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So one day ISIS is just chilling, like in the palace, wherever.

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And the behead was like, Hey Isis, I heard some tea and ISIS is whack.

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What is it?

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And she's like, great grandfather has a secret name.

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And she's like, what?

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He's like, yep, he has a secret name and if you say it, something's gonna happen.

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I don't know what's gonna happen.

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She's like, but I heard stuff goes down if you say it.

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So ISIS is like, well what is it?

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And she's like, I don't know, you have to ask him.

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ISIS is like, fine.

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So ISIS gets to thinking, hmm, maybe ISIS is super nice, but she also

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is sick of people being tortured.

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So she's like, maybe if I find out the secret name, I can get him to start torch.

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Stop torturing these people.

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Fine.

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So at this point, atom's kind of old, so he has to cross the

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sky day, day night from east to west, east to west, east to west.

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Every day he's tired.

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So one day he's like going across the sky and he drs a little bit and I

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guess God DRL is like super powerful cause isis, she goes and collects

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some of it and she makes a snake.

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So she goes to see her granddad, he's like resting cuz he's so

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tired of being the sun all day.

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It's exhausting.

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And she's like, Hey granddad, what's going on?

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Great-grandfather.

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He's like, oh, I'm good.

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What's up?

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And she's like, Hey, um, yeah, how's your day?

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He's like, oh, it was fun.

Ashley: 00:56:46

Oh, oh my God.

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And he starts screaming, what's going on?

Ashley: 00:56:49

This snake bit him now.

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He's screaming.

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I says, you gotta help me.

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You gotta help me.

Ashley: 00:56:55

Oh my God, I'm so scared.

Ashley: 00:56:56

Oh my God, the snake fight hurts so much.

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And she's like, I'll help you but you gotta tell me your secret name.

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And he's like, what secret name?

Ashley: 00:57:02

I don't have a secret name.

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And she's like, you sure do.

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Tell me and I will help you.

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I promise I will heal you.

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So Otten thought about it and he's like, I can't, I can't tell you.

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So she turns around and walks away and he's like, no, wait, I'll tell you.

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He tells her and he's like, okay, my secret name, it's not

Ashley: 00:57:24

really a name, it's a sound.

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She's like, I don't care.

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Just tell me what it's, and he's like, it's raw.

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And she's like, and then all of a sudden all of atom's powers go to isis.

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She feels it.

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Atom loses his powers.

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He's still God, but he loses his powers.

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So now ISIS has all these powers and she's like, oh my God, this is great.

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So she goes to Oys and she's like, oys, we're gonna clean it up, shop.

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We're gonna fix the people.

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I'm gonna get them medicine.

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And I, oys is like, great, I'm gonna help them make wheat and stuff.

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Like, let's do it.

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So they get on and they start making stuff for people and try to help them.

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Okay.

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Now at this point, they've been doing this for a little while, and now this

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is gonna be a weird interlude to the story, but we're gonna come back to it.

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So just stay with me.

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You're gonna be like, why are you telling us this?

Ashley: 00:58:14

Okay, so one night, Osiris is telling isis, oh my God, I made this thing.

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It's like a drink, but it's like weep, but it's fermented and like it's really

Ashley: 00:58:24

cool, and I'm gonna go show the humans.

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And my sister's like, fine, I'm exhausted.

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I'm going to bed.

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You can go show the humans.

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I'll see you in the morning.

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She goes to bed, wakes up in the morning, Nim Behe is on her

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couch, and she goes into Nette.

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She's like, Hey, what's up?

Ashley: 00:58:38

Why are you here?

Ashley: 00:58:39

She's like, oh, um, I slept here last night.

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And she's like, what?

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And she's like, yeah, I slept here last night.

Ashley: 00:58:46

Uh, me and Seth got in a fight, so I came here and I gotta tell you something.

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And she's like, okay, what?

Ashley: 00:58:52

And she's like, uh, I slept for those Cyrus.

Ashley: 00:58:54

And she's like, what?

Ashley: 00:58:56

And she's like, yeah, like, you know, he was showing me this drink thing that

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he made and he was acting all goofy.

Ashley: 00:59:03

And then he kind of thought that I was you because we're twins.

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And then I just let him think that.

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And then we had sex and she's like, what?

Ashley: 00:59:12

So she's like really mad.

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But Isis also being the goddess of compassion was like, okay,

Ashley: 00:59:20

O Cyrus didn't know it was you.

Ashley: 00:59:22

He thought it was me.

Ashley: 00:59:22

So I can't be that mad at him.

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I'm kind of mad at you, but you're my sister, so I'm

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gonna, I'm gonna get over it.

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So she did.

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Again, that's a weird interlude, but it will come up again.

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So now, Osiris.

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He just left for 10 years.

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He decided to go to other countries.

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Yes.

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I know.

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This is so random.

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It's like that morning he was like, you know what, I'm gonna go across

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the world and teach people how to make wheat and bread and all this stuff.

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He's gone for 10 years.

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Beer on the road.

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Yeah.

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He's like, I gotta take my beer to everybody.

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My micro brew.

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I've gotta advertise it.

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So he goes, and ISIS is like, oh, okay, cool.

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But she loves him and he loves her.

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It's not a problem.

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So if Cyrus is gone for all this time, And ISIS is healing people.

Ashley: 01:00:08

O Cyrus is bringing everybody wheat beer.

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And then he gets back like, and all this time, oh, also set is getting

Ashley: 01:00:16

angrier and angrier because all the people of Egypt love o Cyrus and

Ashley: 01:00:20

they can't wait for him to come back.

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And Isis is, is ruling in his, um, ruling in his leave and people really

Ashley: 01:00:27

like her so it's not a problem, but they just can't wait for O Cyrus

Ashley: 01:00:29

to come back cuz he's awesome.

Ashley: 01:00:31

So Seth gets mad cuz he doesn't want everyone to like O Cyrus.

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He wants everyone to like him, but nobody likes him.

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So he en masses all these followers and all his followers

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are kind of like CD people.

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Eves, um, just pe mischievous people.

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And he's got a plan cuz he's like, let's see when Oys gets

Ashley: 01:00:48

back, I don't, I don't like him.

Ashley: 01:00:49

I'm gonna figure this out.

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So O Cyrus gets back and when he gets back set is like, oh, Cyrus,

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oh my God, I'm so happy you're here.

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And Oys is like, oh my God, I'm so happy to see you.

Ashley: 01:01:01

I gotta go see my wife though.

Ashley: 01:01:02

I can't just see you.

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Like I haven't seen him for 10 years.

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He's like, okay bro, that's fine.

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But like first I have, I still have a whole party for you.

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Please comment.

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Like I'll tell Isis, she'll come over.

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It won't be a big deal.

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Just come to the party.

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And O Cyrus is like, oh, okay, fine, I'll come with you.

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Gets to the party.

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The party is fun, the music is playing, the wine is flowing.

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Everyone's having a good time.

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Then all of a sudden set's like, oh, I forgot you guys were gonna have a contest.

Ashley: 01:01:31

And O Cyrus is like, contest.

Ashley: 01:01:32

This is weird.

Ashley: 01:01:32

Okay, whatever.

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He brings out this beautiful box, gorgeous box, and Ocirus is like, whoever can fit

Ashley: 01:01:41

in the box perfectly can take the box.

Ashley: 01:01:45

And Ocirus is like, okay, cool.

Ashley: 01:01:47

So everyone's trying, trying.

Ashley: 01:01:48

Some are too big, some are too small, some are too short, some, some are too tall.

Ashley: 01:01:53

And then finally O Cyrus is like, wow, this is kind of fun.

Ashley: 01:01:56

Like, I wanna try.

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And Seth's like, no, you're the king.

Ashley: 01:01:58

You can't try.

Ashley: 01:01:59

It is not fair if you win the box.

Ashley: 01:02:01

He's like, no, just let me try.

Ashley: 01:02:02

I'll be fine.

Ashley: 01:02:04

So if Cyrus leaves in the box, and of course it's perfect

Ashley: 01:02:07

because he made it for Osiris.

Ashley: 01:02:09

Okay, now lays in Cyrus in the box and he slams it down, closes

Ashley: 01:02:13

them in, covers it with lead.

Ashley: 01:02:17

Ocirus is beating against the boss trying to get out.

Ashley: 01:02:20

And even though Ocirus is a God, apparently he can die in this box.

Ashley: 01:02:24

I don't know how that works.

Ashley: 01:02:25

This is Egyptian mythology.

Ashley: 01:02:26

I didn't come up with it.

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So Ocirus dies in the box now and set goes, and he takes the box with his

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people and he throwed him in Nile.

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Meanwhile, ISIS is like, she doesn't know what's going on, but she heard

Ashley: 01:02:44

the ISIS that Ocirus got back.

Ashley: 01:02:46

So she's wondering where he is at.

Ashley: 01:02:48

So she goes and she finds Seth and she's like, Seth, what's up?

Ashley: 01:02:52

Like, have you seen Ocirus?

Ashley: 01:02:53

And he's like, oh yeah, I saw Cyrus.

Ashley: 01:02:56

You did.

Ashley: 01:02:57

And she's like, wait, what?

Ashley: 01:02:58

And he's like, yep, I killed him.

Ashley: 01:03:00

And she said, What she's like.

Ashley: 01:03:02

He's like, yeah, yeah, he's dead.

Ashley: 01:03:04

I threw him in the now I'm the king now, sorry.

Ashley: 01:03:05

Okay, bye.

Ashley: 01:03:07

And then he runs away and she's like, what?

Ashley: 01:03:12

She's so upset.

Ashley: 01:03:14

Yeah, she's really, really upset.

Ashley: 01:03:17

So now she's like, oh my God.

Ashley: 01:03:19

So now she spends the next 10 ish years looking for O Cyrus, cuz she's

Ashley: 01:03:24

like, look, I'm the goddess of magic.

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If anybody can bring him back to life, I can.

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I just gotta find him.

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I don't know where he is.

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So she goes to this land called Bilos this in a different part of Egypt than

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she is, and she hears a story about a box that got stuck in a bush and then

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a tree grew around the bush and then they used that tree in the palace.

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So long story short about the palace, she ends up becoming maid.

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She gets in the palace, she breaks in, she gets the pillar, and she leaves.

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We're not gonna go into that story cuz it's too long.

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So, so anyway, just know she got it back.

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So she gets back the box.

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So she's traveling down the now with her box.

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Now she gets back to her part of Egypt.

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So she's like, okay, I'm here.

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I gotta get stuff for the ritual to bring back o Cyrus.

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But the thing is Egypt has changed in the past 10 years.

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She's been away looking for him.

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She's gotta go kind of farther to find stuff.

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Meanwhile set has everybody hates set.

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He's not a good king, but people are just doing whatever

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he does because he's a king.

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So set has set out, set, has set, set, has set out, guards all over to monitor

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Egypt and see where ISIS is gonna be.

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So here comes isis.

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Now she's looking for stuff and they were telling, they go back and report to set.

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ISIS is getting all these different kinds of herbs.

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I don't know what's going on.

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So what does set go straight to her palace?

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And he sees the box right as ISIS is coming back and he's like, Hey Isis.

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And she's like, oh hey.

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And he's like, what's over there?

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And she's like, what's over where?

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He's like, over there, what's that box?

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She's like, what box?

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And he's like, stop it.

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I see your box.

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She's like, set.

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Stop.

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Like, let's just end this.

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He's like, no, we're not gonna end anything.

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So he takes out his knife and he starts cutting the box and

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he cuts it into 14 pieces.

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And he specifically takes o Cyrus's penis.

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And he takes it and he goes to one part of the river and he throws it in

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and watches alligators eat it because without his penis he can't have a baby.

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So ISIS loses it.

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She starts screaming, screaming so loud that she like, there's an earthquake

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in the world, Seth Le Seth leaves.

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He doesn't care.

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So, After all this screaming, everybody heard it.

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So Nabet had came by and she's like, what's up?

Ashley: 01:05:56

What's going on?

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She's like, oh, you're here to make fun of me.

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Ne bet's like, I'm making fun of what?

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I don't even know what's going on.

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She's like, so she tells Nabet, hit what happened, and she's like, oh God,

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all right, I'm gonna help you, and ISIS says you're really gonna help me.

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She's like, yes, I'm gonna help you.

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We're gonna go find, oh, by the way, set, took all the other pieces of Cyrus

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and told them to scatter it all around Egypt so that ISIS couldn't find them.

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So she's like, I'm gonna help you.

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So she's like, what we're gonna do is we're gonna make tracking dogs

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that can find Irus anywhere in Egypt.

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ISIS is like, okay, fine.

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So they do.

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So they spend a couple days, it doesn't take them that long, and they find all 13

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pieces of Osiris and what ISIS thought was a good idea, which is a really good idea.

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She's like, what we're gonna do is every single time we find a piece of Osiris,

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we're gonna build a temple there for Osiris Cyrus, because that way set will

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never know where his whole body is.

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We'll confuse him.

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So Nek was like, all right, sounds like good idea where Goddess is.

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We can make this happen very quickly.

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So they do it.

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So now they have all the pieces and they're putting them together and all of

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a sudden out of the woods, wherever they were, Comes this boy with a dog head.

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I'm like, who's this boy?

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And the boy is like, Hey.

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And then they're like, Hey, you're a boy with a dog head.

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We don't know what's going on.

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And he is like, oh my God.

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And then Nabet head is grossed out.

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She's like, get away from me, blah, blah, blah.

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And ISIS is like, what is the problem?

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Why are you freaking out?

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And she goes, oh, by the way, that's my baby.

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That I had with O Cyrus.

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That time

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everyone is confused.

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Everyone's like, ISIS is like, what?

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She's like, yeah, I had this baby, but he had a dog head and I don't like it.

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So I just through in the woods.

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And she's like, oh.

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But then, so she, at this point, NABET had just leaves.

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She's just like, I'm going home.

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I'm so, I'm like, you're not that great of a sister all the time.

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Sometimes you have to be nicer to her.

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Um, but anyway, I just felt terrible for, um, this little boy with a dog

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head and she's like, listen, I'll take you in, like you're gonna be my.

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My assistant from now.

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So she named him a nubis, and this was her best assistant servant, and he

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served her for the rest of her life.

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All right.

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That's another weird flower part of the story, but it happened.

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Um, so at this point now, she put o Irus back together.

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She used oils, she used linens to cover him oils.

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She rubbed them on his body and she did certain rituals.

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So this is considered the first mummy.

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It was Osiris.

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And the box he was in was the first sarcophagus.

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So after this, she brought Osiris back to life, but the spell that she used, she

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said it could only work for a few minutes.

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So she brought him back to life.

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She held him.

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She was like, oh, you know, they were talking, I love you.

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I love you, love you.

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Oh, the other thing is O cyrus's soul could not go to where it

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needed to go unless it was whole.

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So basically for some reason they didn't need the penis part.

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That was fine, but the rest of his body had to be together

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like so she did it, it was fine.

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So she's like, all right, great.

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I'll get you a lie for a couple minutes so I can talk to you.

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Then you can go into your spirit form and you'll be fine.

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So in those couple minutes, because he was a spirit and cuz Isis, I

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guess is a goddess, she had a baby.

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She, she got pregnant and everything was great.

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Soon she got pregnant and she had a baby and she named that baby

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Horace and he had a falcon head.

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Now she raised Horas and a Nubis, and she raised Horas up because she

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wanted him to fight, set and like bring back their family's honor.

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And because of Cyrus was in spirit form, sometimes he could come back.

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And he was also training Horace.

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The other thing Osiris did was that the gods kind of felt bad for Ocirus

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cuz he didn't like he, he got murdered by another God, like it was too much.

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So they're like, we should give him like a good position.

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So they're like, Osiris, we have a vacancy.

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We need you to be the king of the underworld.

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And Isis was like, don't be the king about underworld.

Ashley: 01:10:27

That sounds like a lot of work.

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And he's like, no, no, no, no.

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I went to the underworld obviously cuz I'm dead and it's a mess down there.

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He's like basically the only people who could go to like the

Ashley: 01:10:38

cool part of the underworld were kings because they were kings.

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People who were just normal people weren't allowed to go

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because , they couldn't be judged.

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And I, uh, o Cyrus's job was to judge the dead.

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He's like, when I go down there, I'm gonna judge everybody so I can pick

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who gets to go and who gets to come.

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But it doesn't matter if you're a king or a queen or a peasant, it doesn't matter.

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He made a list of 42 sins.

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Unforgivable sins and 10 of which are the 10 commandments actually,

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and the other 32 are different.

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But the person who died would have to memorize those 42 sins and be able to

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speak them to Osiris when they died and in like, and be able to say that

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they didn't do any of those things.

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And that's how he judged them on whether or not they got to go to the good part

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or they had to roam around forever.

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Dead.

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So she's like, okay, you're doing something good for humanity,

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so go be a king of a dead.

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Okay, cool.

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So anyway, now we get back to what we're talking about.

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So, oh, Cyrus is teaching Horace to fight and Horace is now

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getting older and he's ready.

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So Horace goes, he sets up a little bit of an army, he goes

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to set and he's like, set.

Ashley: 01:11:52

Killed my dad.

Ashley: 01:11:53

What's, what's the quote from the princess Bride.

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He said, my name is Diego Montoya.

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You killed my father.

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Prepare to die.

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Yeah.

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So, so that's basically what he did.

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So he went to him and they started fighting and they

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fought for like 80 years.

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They fought for time.

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And at one point now they're both exhausted.

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They're like, this is crazy.

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We gotta stop.

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So set was like, all right, I have a plan.

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He says, what we're gonna do to stop this fight.

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We're both gonna become hippos.

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And he's like, we're both gonna become hippos and whoever can kill

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the other one under the water.

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And the Nile.

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We'll win.

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This is like, I love like mythology logic, cuz you're like, how

Ashley: 01:12:41

did they, it's just so logical.

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It makes sense.

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They're like, duh, we're just gonna become hippos.

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So they're like, okay, fine.

Ashley: 01:12:49

This sounds great.

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So they both became hippos and they went into the water and for three months

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they were under the water fighting.

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And then I, ISIS got worried about Horace.

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She's like, oh my God, he's gonna die under there.

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So she puts a giant hook in the water and she gets out ho and he's like,

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mom, I almost had him like, damnit mom.

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So he's super mad.

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So she, she unhooks him and throws him back in.

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Then she gets another hook and she hooks set and set's like, oh God.

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He's like, I was dying.

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Um, and then she's like, well, now I have you.

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I'm gonna kill you.

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And Seth's like, please, please, please, please don't kill me.

Ashley: 01:13:25

And Isis, again, being the goddess of compassion's, like, oh God,

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I can't actually kill you, even though I'm really mad at you.

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So I let them go.

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So then they just, I guess they just had like a truce.

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They just, everybody stopped because this was crazy.

Ashley: 01:13:40

So Horace comes up and Horace is like, mom, how dare you do that?

Ashley: 01:13:45

You had to kill him and you didn't kill him.

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And he gets so mad that he cuts off ISIS's head.

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So now Isis is a headless stone and because she's a goddess

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again, she can still talk.

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So she has like, she's talking, somebody puts her head back on her body and

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she's like, I'm gonna turn myself into a statue cuz I feel terrible.

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So weird.

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So she does.

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So for a minute, ISIS was a statue.

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Then the gods were like, please don't be a statue.

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We need you.

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You're the goddess of healing.

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Like everyone's gonna be sick without you.

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So she comes back.

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But now there's just general strife.

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Everyone's mad at everybody.

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They don't know what to do, and they're mad at Horace more than set.

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They're like, why did Horace try to kill set, blah, blah.

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So all the gods at 10 gets all the big gods together.

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And he is like, okay, we're gonna have a meeting about what

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we're gonna do with Horace.

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And they decided the ISIS couldn't be part of the meeting, but Seth could.

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And she's like, damn it, because Seth's gonna make it sound like Ho

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is a terrible one after what he did.

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So they had it on this specific island and isis.

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So ISIS turned into a bird and she went to this ice island to spy.

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But then she's like, you know what else I'm gonna do?

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I'm gonna turn to a very pretty lady.

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So Seth's waiting outside where they're having the meeting and she

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turns into this beautiful woman.

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She's just walking around and he's like, oh, excuse me ma'am, how you doing?

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She's like, oh, I'm so sad.

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I'm so upset.

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And he's like, what happened?

Ashley: 01:15:10

She's like, well, I, my um, husband.

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My husband was this really good man, and we had a farm.

Ashley: 01:15:17

And then my son took over the farm and he was doing a great job.

Ashley: 01:15:21

And then his uncle came and his uncle took everything and

Ashley: 01:15:24

like, I don't know what to do.

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And Seth's like, well, his uncle sounds like a jerk.

Ashley: 01:15:29

You should kill the uncle and let the son rule the farm.

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And he, and she turns back into isis.

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She's like, haha, it's high Isis.

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See you wanna be king, but Horace should be king because, you're the bad one.

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And we're gonna put Horas in.

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So then the whole council comes out and they're like, what's going on here?

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And Isis is like, I just told him a story of basically what

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had just happened in our lives.

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And he admitted that Hora should be in charge and not him.

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And so the gods were like, okay, that's true.

Ashley: 01:16:01

That's a good point.

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So they put Horace in, and Horace with the falcon head became the first

Ashley: 01:16:07

Pharaoh, cuz he ruled over all Egypt.

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And then because set was so bad, but they couldn't kill him cuz he's a god.

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They decided to put him up in the sky and that's why he's the king of thunder.

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Cuz he just gets pissed sometimes that he's still in

Ashley: 01:16:21

the sky and he makes some noise.

Ashley: 01:16:23

Yeah, exactly.

Ashley: 01:16:25

He's just like, come the sky.

Ashley: 01:16:28

This so annoying.

Ashley: 01:16:30

Um.

Ashley: 01:16:32

Oh my gosh.

Ashley: 01:16:33

I know.

Ashley: 01:16:33

And then Isis lived to be very old and then she died and went to the

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afterlife and then she was with Cy oh Cs for the rest of her life.

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And everything was fine after that.

Ashley: 01:16:45

And that's the end.

Ashley: 01:16:52

You tell stories.

Ashley: 01:16:52

That was so entertaining.

Ashley: 01:16:54

I'm so glad.

Joya: 01:16:56

I was like, I wish she was.

Joya: 01:16:57

I wish you were our tour

Ashley: 01:16:58

guide on Egypt.

Ashley: 01:17:02

Oh my gosh.

Ashley: 01:17:04

Well, thank you.

Ashley: 01:17:06

I tried, but that's our story for today.

Ashley: 01:17:10

So this, now we are coming to the end, unfortunately, of our

Ashley: 01:17:12

podcast and we've just had such a great time talking with Joya.

Ashley: 01:17:16

So Joy, tell everybody where they can find you on the internet or.

Ashley: 01:17:22

Anything you're doing that you wanna talk about, you can just tell us

Joya: 01:17:24

now.

Joya: 01:17:25

Well, thank you.

Joya: 01:17:26

Oh my gosh, this has been so fun.

Joya: 01:17:28

And, and I'm actually found a recipe for the beans.

Joya: 01:17:31

I'm like, I am gonna go home and make some of those beans,

Ashley: 01:17:35

find those beans, those beans first,

Joya: 01:17:39

have to find the beans.

Ashley: 01:17:42

You're not

Joya: 01:17:42

gonna make the beans.

Joya: 01:17:43

But thank you so much for inviting me.

Joya: 01:17:45

This has been so much fun, and you're such a great storyteller.

Joya: 01:17:49

It was so, so, so much fun to visit Egypt again.

Joya: 01:17:52

Like that.

Joya: 01:17:53

It reminded me of a drunk history story, except for you are not Drunk and

Ashley: 01:17:59

Teller.

Ashley: 01:18:00

Oh, thank you.

Joya: 01:18:01

You're so welcome.

Joya: 01:18:03

Oh my gosh.

Joya: 01:18:04

So everybody can find me everywhere online at vi.

Joya: 01:18:07

It's V I B O L O G I E.

Joya: 01:18:11

And um, that's on Instagram, Facebook.

Joya: 01:18:14

My coach just told me I have to be on TikTok.

Joya: 01:18:16

She's like, you have to be on TikTok too.

Joya: 01:18:18

I'm like, oh, it's another.

Joya: 01:18:20

Another thing, so you can find me on

Ashley: 01:18:23

TikTok

Joya: 01:18:26

and also YouTube and um, yeah, I pretty

Ashley: 01:18:30

much.

Ashley: 01:18:32

Just

Joya: 01:18:32

share everything.

Joya: 01:18:33

I know every bit of my wisdom, everything that I've learned I teach.

Joya: 01:18:38

And on my website I teach and offer, uh, classes for expressive,

Joya: 01:18:43

I call it expressive and intuitive meditation for people who hate to

Joya: 01:18:46

meditate because that coming into the self-awareness is the key, right?

Joya: 01:18:51

Mm-hmm.

Joya: 01:18:52

And most people don't wanna meditate.

Joya: 01:18:54

And you know, I just read an interesting statistic that said that most.

Joya: 01:18:57

Spiritual people and spiritual leaders, like only like 17%

Joya: 01:19:01

of them meditate regularly.

Joya: 01:19:03

It's such a low number.

Joya: 01:19:04

So I'm like, we need to change that cause Hmm.

Joya: 01:19:06

People need to be meditating.

Joya: 01:19:08

They need to be in, in the body learning who they are.

Joya: 01:19:11

Right.

Joya: 01:19:11

Becoming an in awareness.

Joya: 01:19:12

So anyway, off my high horse, I teach meditation for people who hate.

Joya: 01:19:16

I love it,

Ashley: 01:19:17

love.

Joya: 01:19:18

And of course I lead spiritual journeys around the world for people who

Joya: 01:19:21

wanna come, women who wanna come and sing and drum and dance and get in touch with

Joya: 01:19:27

our divine feminine priestess energy.

Joya: 01:19:30

And in so many places around the world, you know, women were the drummers.

Joya: 01:19:34

You didn't even get into the story of God is half or so.

Joya: 01:19:36

I can't wait till you tell,

Ashley: 01:19:39

like, wait, you didn't even talk about theor God, half.

Ashley: 01:19:43

I know that that's coming off.

Ashley: 01:19:45

Don't worry.

Ashley: 01:19:46

Good.

Ashley: 01:19:47

I can't wait.

Ashley: 01:19:47

I can't wait to hear

Joya: 01:19:48

how you tell her story.

Joya: 01:19:49

But.

Joya: 01:19:50

It's her story, right?

Ashley: 01:19:52

Not his.

Ashley: 01:19:52

Mm-hmm.

Ashley: 01:19:53

Her story.

Ashley: 01:19:54

Yes.

Ashley: 01:19:56

Her story.

Ashley: 01:19:57

Yes.

Ashley: 01:19:58

But anyway,

Joya: 01:19:58

so yeah, I'd love to lead women on sacred journeys to go sing and drum

Joya: 01:20:03

and be in our, our wild woman bodies and our, and just in that energy of

Joya: 01:20:09

that priestess energy and feeling that that movement coming up from

Joya: 01:20:14

our sacral womb, our sacral womb.

Joya: 01:20:17

Yes.

Joya: 01:20:17

Up through the, up through the whole channel and through the throat.

Joya: 01:20:20

That's like, that's how we speak.

Joya: 01:20:21

That's where we speak from.

Joya: 01:20:23

That's where we find our power.

Joya: 01:20:24

Yes.

Joya: 01:20:24

And I'm so passionate about connecting women back to that source of their power.

Joya: 01:20:29

So, Yeah, you can find me everywhere at VI and my website is also vi.com.

Joya: 01:20:34

V i b o l o g i

Ashley: 01:20:36

e.

Ashley: 01:20:37

Awesome.

Ashley: 01:20:38

So all, like I said, every link will be in the um, show notes.

Ashley: 01:20:42

Um, and thank you again and uh, again, one more time.

Ashley: 01:20:47

If you guys wanna listen to the show, follow us on all the different

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You can follow the show.

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Ashley: 01:20:57

with the divine pod gmail.com.

Ashley: 01:21:00

And again, if you wanna follow me, I'm Sankofa Hs Sankofa

Ashley: 01:21:05

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Ashley: 01:21:06

And so I just wanna thank Joy again.

Ashley: 01:21:09

This was so great and fun and she's been so patient.

Ashley: 01:21:13

I had some te technical difficulties and she was very patient with

Ashley: 01:21:15

me and I just really appreciate people for just being so kind.

Ashley: 01:21:19

So thank you so much.

Ashley: 01:21:21

Aw, you're so well.

Ashley: 01:21:21

Thank you.

Ashley: 01:21:21

We are

Joya: 01:21:22

in Mercury retrograde, so.

Ashley: 01:21:24

Exactly, yes.

Ashley: 01:21:27

I'm like, of course

Joya: 01:21:27

she's having technical difficulties.

Joya: 01:21:29

I mean, It's the time of the, of the energy.

Joya: 01:21:32

It really

Ashley: 01:21:32

deal is.

Ashley: 01:21:33

I know.

Ashley: 01:21:33

Yeah.

Ashley: 01:21:34

All right, well thank you so, so much and then thank you.

Ashley: 01:21:37

I will see all you guys next week.

Ashley: 01:21:40

Bye.